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Monday, September 15, 2008

Pause for Concern

This past week, a lot has gone on south of the continent. First of all, the quagmire surrounding Jonathon Shapiro's satirical cartoon: I did mean to add my pithy contribution to the hullabaloo, it had the working title of Cartoon Culture but was stymied by the flu mid-way. I've subsequently read a couple of excellent blogs on the same subject, so instead I'm posting a link to one of the best takes, here.

And now a spot of voyeurism: Safiyyah and I tend to have enormously gratifying chats, intellectually stimulating, such that we start off sharing coiffure tips and end up debating South African politics. This is how we got round to cartoon culture:

(Caveat lector, it was a few words between friends, spelling is poor, opinion is decidedly candid, do be kind in judgement)

2008/09/10

10:42:53 AM

Safs

lol yeah whats happened to Makutano?

2008/09/10

10:43:08 AM

Safs

u really are going to neglect ur kids!

2008/09/10

10:43:09 AM

Safs

hehe

2008/09/10

10:43:12 AM

Kay

lol

2008/09/10

10:43:23 AM

Kay

a tragedy i tell ya

2008/09/10

10:43:45 AM

Kay

you've heard about the rumblings in these parts about the zapiro cartoon?

2008/09/10

10:44:13 AM

Safs

nopes, do tell

2008/09/10

10:44:22 AM

Safs

u are my window to SA

2008/09/10

10:44:38 AM

Kay

sunday times published a zapiro cartoon

2008/09/10

10:44:45 AM

Kay

wait lemme get a link for you

2008/09/10

10:44:53 AM

Kay

if i descreibe it it'll spoil it for you

2008/09/10

10:49:25 AM

Kay

opinion?

2008/09/10

10:49:59 AM

Safs

omigod

2008/09/10

10:50:12 AM

Kay

risque dont you think?

2008/09/10

10:50:18 AM

Safs

talk about a strong message

2008/09/10

10:51:35 AM

Kay

absolutely

2008/09/10

10:51:41 AM

Safs

sad to say it is true, but the image of a women being raped...i dont know

2008/09/10

10:51:58 AM

Safs

how has the public reacted?

2008/09/10

10:52:44 AM

Kay

that's the uncomfortable thing for me

2008/09/10

10:52:53 AM

Kay

has rape become so much a norm?

2008/09/10

10:53:13 AM

Safs

hmm or perhaps he just wants to portray the gravity of the situation?

2008/09/10

10:53:40 AM

Kay

you know it comes back to the freedom of expression vs hate speech quandry

2008/09/10

10:53:48 AM

Safs

like telling the public, open your eyes!

2008/09/10

10:54:49 AM

Safs

no matter what u think this cartoon wil force a reaction out of you!

2008/09/10

10:54:54 AM

Kay

absoluely

2008/09/10

10:55:00 AM

Kay

very strong reactions too

2008/09/10

10:56:12 AM

Safs

i dont know...

2008/09/10

10:56:14 AM

Safs

what to think

2008/09/10

10:56:55 AM

Safs

part of me is like yes, this is the right message to be sending out, but the feminist in me is saying no, why use a women

2008/09/10

10:57:15 AM

Kay

i keep coming back to the cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

2008/09/10

10:57:25 AM

Kay

somethings are beyond caricature

2008/09/10

10:57:35 AM

Safs

uh huh

2008/09/10

10:57:38 AM

Safs

definitely

2008/09/10

10:58:40 AM

Kay

rape i think is one of them

2008/09/10

10:59:03 AM

Safs

im leaning towards agreeing with you!

2008/09/10

10:59:10 AM

Safs

he couldve used a murder scene?

2008/09/10

10:59:52 AM

Safs

but maybe he wants to show gross violation, which rape symbolizes, something deeper, more immoral

2008/09/10

11:00:15 AM

Kay

yea... but zuma's rape background makes using rape irresistable... taints him all over again

2008/09/10

11:00:21 AM

Kay

as if he was never acquited

2008/09/10

11:00:21 AM

Safs

ohhh yeah

2008/09/10

11:00:26 AM

Safs

i didnt think about that

2008/09/10

11:01:21 AM

Safs

wow, this cartoon is STRONG

2008/09/10

11:01:21 AM

Safs

what do u think?

2008/09/10

11:01:44 AM

Kay

it is absolutely

2008/09/10

11:01:54 AM

Kay

i mean to bring all this up it has to be

2008/09/10

11:04:48 AM

Kay

the anc claim they aren't going to prosecute zapiro

2008/09/10

11:05:00 AM

Kay

but i cant help thinking if they do, they'd probly win

2008/09/10

11:05:50 AM

Safs

i dont understand?

2008/09/10

11:06:13 AM

Safs

this deserves a makutano post u know, ppl to need to discuss these issues! or atleast be exposed to them

2008/09/10

11:06:16 AM

Kay

defamation of character

2008/09/10

11:06:23 AM

Kay

i'm thinking the same thing

2008/09/10

11:06:28 AM

Kay

let me get to it!

2008/09/10

11:08:43 AM

Safs

alright

2008/09/10

11:09:20 AM

Kay

perhaps you could do a couner post... out of context what it means to you

2008/09/10

11:10:54 AM

Safs

good idea

2008/09/10

11:11:18 AM

Safs

but i need a lead, so wil wait for ur ideas

2008/09/10

11:11:22 AM

Kay

K


And post Pietermaritzburg judgement :

2008/09/13

01:56:43 PM

Kay

i'm just looking at my half finished post for makutano i was too ill to finish it and now there's more to be said

2008/09/13

01:56:52 PM

Kay

anc's calling for mbeki to resign :S

2008/09/13

01:56:57 PM

Safs

i know!

2008/09/13

01:57:03 PM

Safs

i watched thenews

2008/09/13

01:57:06 PM

Safs

on al jaz

2008/09/13

01:57:13 PM

Kay

it's worrying

2008/09/13

01:57:21 PM

Safs

we were dumbfounded! there was this former anc guy

2008/09/13

01:57:31 PM

Safs

and he made such an import point

2008/09/13

01:58:15 PM

Safs

that if the president of the country, i.e Zuma, can get away scotch free from so many accusations, what message does that send to the public and the moral high ground

2008/09/13

01:58:26 PM

Safs

if anything, it will just fuel the crime

2008/09/13

01:58:27 PM

Kay

absolutely!

2008/09/13

01:58:45 PM

Kay

there's no real justice, because he's getting off on a technicality

2008/09/13

01:58:51 PM

Safs

so whats mbekis position?

2008/09/13

01:59:11 PM

Safs

yeah exactly, because the prosecution didnt give him time to defend himself

2008/09/13

01:59:17 PM

Kay

it's so ironic that in the week of mbeki's greatest triumph, power sharing in zim, he has to face this

2008/09/13

01:59:21 PM

Safs

looks the judge is bought over

2008/09/13

02:00:04 PM

Safs

yeah i saw that too, gosh zim is a mess... one lady said she doesnt care who gets whats position, because zimbabwe is hungry!

2008/09/13

02:00:20 PM

Kay

:(

2008/09/13

02:00:37 PM

Kay

there's so much going on in the world how do we remain in our bubbles

And then:

2008/09/14

11:24:22 AM

Kay

apparently mbeki has his weeks numbered as president :(

2008/09/14

11:24:34 AM

Kay

the media are so fickle!

2008/09/14

11:24:50 AM

Kay

it used to be bash zuma now it's bash mbeki

2008/09/14

11:25:17 AM

Safs

whoa

2008/09/14

11:25:20 AM

Safs

weeks?

2008/09/14

11:25:35 AM

Safs

yeah, whoever they can gain favour with right?

2008/09/14

11:25:39 AM

Kay

yea!

2008/09/14

11:25:50 AM

Safs

it wont do them any good to bash zuma if he gonna be next presd.

2008/09/14

11:26:00 AM

Safs

each to his own interests...sad

2008/09/14

11:26:02 AM

Kay

the sunday times esp are culprtis of sensational journalism

2008/09/14

11:26:16 AM

Kay

the drivel they print just to make waves!

2008/09/14

11:26:18 AM

Safs

i know! can u even call that journalism?

2008/09/14

11:26:31 AM

Kay

it's horrific!

2008/09/14

11:27:51 AM

Kay

i'm going to find it very hard voting for zuma

2008/09/14

11:28:07 AM

Safs

u CANT vote for him

2008/09/14

11:28:22 AM

Safs

what are the other options

2008/09/14

11:28:30 AM

Kay

and you know what i hate is this mentality in our community that says zuma's good with indians so we should like him

2008/09/14

11:28:39 AM

Safs

ugh!

2008/09/14

11:28:42 AM

Kay

bleh! what are we living in apaartheid?!

2008/09/14

11:28:45 AM

Safs

ive heard that before

2008/09/14

11:28:56 AM

Safs

from my own family!

2008/09/14

11:29:33 AM

Safs

does morality not feature anywhere in judgement?

2008/09/14

11:29:50 AM

Safs

as long as we're making money, and living above the masses?

2008/09/14

11:29:53 AM

Kay

exactly! cant we see beyond indianness?

2008/09/14

11:30:12 AM

Kay

that's all our community strives for

2008/09/14

11:30:46 AM

Safs

are we indian before we SAian?

2008/09/14

11:31:10 AM

Kay

in some sections of our community indian dominates

2008/09/14

11:31:16 AM

Safs

majority have never seen and never want to see india!

2008/09/14

11:31:36 AM

Safs

yet suddenly , zuma is the saviour of indians...

2008/09/14

11:31:41 AM

Kay

exactly! so why do we persist with this victim complex?

2008/09/14

11:32:04 AM

Safs

for securty i guess..

2008/09/14

11:32:39 AM

Kay

what worries me about zuma is he's playing populist politics

2008/09/14

11:32:54 AM

Kay

makes a few noises about the death penalty get the afrikaner vote

2008/09/14

11:33:10 AM

Kay

a few noses about economic reform gets the poor vote

2008/09/14

11:33:26 AM

Kay

what does HE stand for?

2008/09/14

11:33:51 AM

Safs

yeah that is worrisome

2008/09/14

11:34:05 AM

Safs

we dont knw what lies beneath the charismatic exterior

2008/09/14

11:34:25 AM

Safs

something evil and untodo lurking...

2008/09/14

11:34:58 AM

Kay

that's the worry

2008/09/14

11:35:02 AM

Safs

levels of uneducation must be higher than thought in SA if ppl fall for him...

2008/09/14

11:35:29 AM

Kay

that's what i say... i suspect a distinct lack of literacy!

2008/09/14

11:35:45 AM

Safs

certainly..

2008/09/14

11:36:37 AM

Safs

is there any anti zuma goings on ?

2008/09/14

11:36:52 AM

Kay

safs gtg visitors...

2008/09/14

11:36:57 AM

Kay

catch up later iA

2008/09/14

11:37:05 AM

Safs

ok np

2008/09/14

11:37:08 AM

Safs

enjoy


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